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Before, the emphasis was placed on repetition, now it is placed on [[transference]] [[love]], <i>[[amour]] de [[transfert]]</i>: both are inseparable, but the perspective changes. To insist on [[repetition]] means to refuse to see in the analytic [[situation]] an [[intersubjective]] rapport to be dealt with here and now. What [[speech]] constructed in the [[past]] can be deconstructed in the [[cure]] by [[speech]]: the [[cure]] is "pure [[symbolic]] [[experience]]." On the [[individual]] level, it allows for "the reshaping of the [[imaginary]]," on the theorethical level for an intersubjective [[logic]] to be constructed. Thus, [[analysis]] is described as a [[particular]] experience of [[desire]], on the side of [[sexuality]]. [[Speech]] has an effect only after [[transference]]. For [[Lacan]] "it is from the [[position]] that [[transference]] bestows the [[analyst]] with that he intervenes in [[transference]] itself," and "[[transference]] is [[interpreted]] on the basis of and with the aid of [[transference]] itself." In "The direction of the [[treatment]] and the principles of its [[power]]" (<i>[[Écrits: A Selection]]</i>) [[Lacan]] presented [[countertransference]] as a [[resistance]] of the [[analyst]] and raised the problem of the [[analyst]]'s [[desire]]. Here, [[subjective]] disparity becomes the rule establishing dissymmetry between the two protagonists vis-à-vis [[desire]]: what the [[patient]] will discover through the disappointment of [[transference]] [[love]]. Because in the [[cure]] one learns to talk instead of making [[love]], in the end [[desire]], which has been purified, is but the empty [[place]] where the [[barred]] [[subject]] accesses [[desire]]. We should note that [[training analysis]] does not put the [[analyst]] beyond [[passion]]; to believe that it does would mean that all passions stem from the [[unconscious]], a [[notion]] that [[Lacan]] rejects. The better analysed the [[analyst]] is, the more likely he is to be in [[love]] with, or be quite repulsed by, the [[analysand]]. In [[training]]-analysis there will be a mutation in the [[economy]] of [[desire]] in the analyst-to-be: desire will be restructured, so that it will be stronger than passions. [[Lacan]] calls it the [[desire]] proper to the [[analyst]].
In <i>The [[Symposium]]</i> the [[analyst]]'s position is [[identified]] with Socrates', while Alcibiades occupies the position of the [[analysand]], who after Socrates will discover himself [[desiring]]. "To isolate oneself with [[La relation d'objetanother]]'' so as to teach him what he is [[Lacanlacking]] provided a way of understanding and, by the paradoxical function [[nature]] of [[transference]] in the , he will learn what he is lacking insofar as he [[loves]]: I am not here for his [[treatment|analytical cureGood]], but for him to love me, and for me to disappoint him. "
Alcibiades desires because he presumes Socrates is in possession of the <i>[[agalma]]</i> - the [[phallus]] as desirable. But Socrates refuses the position of [[love]]d [[object]] to assert himself as desiring. For [[Lacan]] [[desire]] never occurs between two [[subject]]s but between a [[subject]] and an overvalorized [[being]] who has fallen to the [[state]] of an [[object]]. The only way to discover the other as subject is "to recognize that he speaks an articulated [[language]] and responds to ours with his own combinations; the other cannot fit into our calculations as someone who coheres like us." Socrates, by shying away from Alcibiades' declaration, by refusing to mask his [[lack]] with a [[fetish]], and by showing him [[Agathon]] as the [[true]] object of his [[love]], shows the [[analyst]] how to behave: such is the other aspect of "subjective disparity" taking place in [[analysis]]. There is no rapport between what the one possesses and what the other [[lack]]s. The [[phallus]], from being <i>[[objet a]]</i>, the [[imaginary]] [[object]], emerges as the [[signifier]] of [[signifier]]s, as "the only [[signifier]] that deserves the [[role]] of [[symbol]]. It designates the [[real]] [[presence]] that permits [[identification]], the origin of the [[Ideal]]-of-the-[[Ego]] on the side of the [[Other]]." There is a [[woman]] in <i>The Symposium</i>, Diotima, who speaks in the [[form]] of [[myth]]. In the fable where [[female]] lack is confronted with [[male]] resources, the [[feminine]] first has an [[active]] role before the desirable [[masculine]]. The [[reversal]] occurs because in love one only gives what one does not have: the [[masculine]], by shying away from the [[demand]], is revealed as a [[subject]] of [[desire]]. Later, [[Lacan]] would make Socrates the [[model]] of [[hysteric]]al [[discourse]], but also of [[analytic discourse]] because he attains the [[knowledge]], the episteme, of [[love]].
==English==
An English [[translation]] of [[Seminar]] VIII, made from unpublished French transcripts, was made by a [[reading]] group associated with [http://www.lacaninireland.com ''Jacques Lacan in Ireland''] and arranged in a presentable form by Tony Hughes.
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--><!--<b>Le séminaire, Livre VIII: Le transfert (dans sa disparité subjective).</b><br>[[French]]: (texte établi par Jacques-[[Alain]] [[Miller]]), [[Paris]]: Seuil, 1991.<br>[[English]]: unpublished
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